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Rethinking “driverless cars”

We recorded 13 claims from this post. 4 were checked against evidence. 9 can’t be checked. 5 more are held. Read the post at its source.

Claims from this post (13)

In the order they appear in the post. Each quotation is the speaker’s words in this post. A label such as “Supported” or “Can’t be checked” is the claim’s current assessment; its page has the evidence and the reasons.

  1. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “This is not true autonomy, but semi-autonomy. It might (I doubt it) save money, but it has literally nothing to do with AGI.”

    What we tested: Remotely-assisted driving is semi-autonomy, not true autonomy; it might save money, though the author doubts it; and it has literally nothing to do with AGI.

  2. Assessment: UnresolvedSaid

    “Essentially NONE of the comparisons we have heard between humans and machines have looked at cars in which humans were not playing some role in the driving, either in the car or remotely.”

    What we tested: Essentially none of the human-versus-machine comparisons we have heard looked at cars in which humans played no role in the driving, either in the car or remotely.

  3. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “Waymo is probably better, but how much better is anybody’s guess.”

    What we tested: Waymo is probably better, but how much better is anybody's guess.

  4. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

  5. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “Remote driving itself is unlikely to work well enough as an endgame on public roads, because data communications just aren’t stable enough.”

    What we tested: Remote driving is unlikely to work well enough as a long-term solution on public roads because data communications are not stable enough.

  6. Assessment: UnresolvedSaid

    “Uber and Lyft can stop worrying about being disintermediated by machines; they will still need human drivers for quite some time.”

    What we tested: Uber and Lyft can stop worrying about being disintermediated by machines, because they will still need human drivers for quite some time.

  7. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “The whole self-driving cars industry is this likely to be viewed in a few years as an epic fail, crushed by outliers and AI that could not reason adequately.”

    What we tested: Within a few years the self-driving car industry will likely be seen as an epic failure, defeated by outliers and AI's inadequate reasoning.

  8. Assessment: UnresolvedSaid

  9. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “Driver-assist (a la Tesla) with humans in the loop may well stay, occasionally causing fatal accidents, given its lack of reliability”

    What we tested: Driver-assist systems like Tesla's may persist while occasionally causing fatal accidents due to unreliability.

  10. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

  11. Assessment: UnresolvedSaid

    “High-reliability is not their forte. and nor are outliers. They won’t take humans out of the loop.”

    What we tested: LLMs (transformers) are not highly reliable and do not handle outliers well, and they won't take humans out of the loop in the pursuit of Level 5 self-driving.

  12. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “If true self-driving is this hard, despite the amount of data that has been collected and amount of money invested ($100B+), any dreams of AGI happening soon are likely wildly unrealistic.”

    What we tested: If true self-driving is this hard despite the data collected and $100B+ invested, any dreams of AGI happening soon are likely wildly unrealistic.

  13. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “No fantasy about AGI thus far has survived contact with the real world.”

    What we tested: No AGI fantasy so far has held up against the real world.

Held from this post (5)

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