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Seven reasons I wouldn’t count Google out

We recorded 13 claims from this post. 8 were checked against evidence. 5 can’t be checked. 3 more are held. Read the post at its source.

Claims from this post (13)

In the order they appear in the post. Each quotation is the speaker’s words in this post. A label such as “Supported” or “Can’t be checked” is the claim’s current assessment; its page has the evidence and the reasons.

  1. Assessment: SupportedSaid

    “Google/Alphabet are hemorrhaging talent, morale is poor, and their latest model is delayed.”

    What we tested: Google/Alphabet is hemorrhaging talent, its morale is poor, and its latest model is delayed.

    What happened: Confirms departures. (Fortune, )

  2. Assessment: UnresolvedSaid

    “Google still has access to an enormous amount of data, from search and email especially, at a scale that nobody else has.”

    What we tested: Google has access to data, especially from search and email, at a scale no other company has.

  3. Assessment: UnresolvedSaid

    “Only a small number of companies (Meta, Microsoft, Amazon, maybe a few in China) can match on sheer compute and expertise building distributed systems.”

    What we tested: Only a few companies can match Google's compute and distributed-systems expertise.

  4. Assessment: UnresolvedSaid

    “Google still makes a ton of money, $402 billion in revenue last year, $132 billion in profit), and has vastly more cash to play with than OpenAI and Anthropic.”

    What we tested: Google made $402 billion revenue and $132 billion profit last year and has vastly more cash than OpenAI and Anthropic.

  5. Assessment: SupportedSaid

    “Google has great distribution, through Android, Mail, Search, Docs, YouTube etc.”

    What we tested: Google has strong distribution through Android, Mail, Search, Docs and YouTube.

    What happened: The disclosure establishes very large existing product audiences and integration of Gemini across them. The same section reports Search AI Overviews reaching more than 2.5 billion monthly users. (Google, )

  6. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “His lack of name recognition may be a liability in the short-term, but his sobriety may be crucial in the long-run.”

    What we tested: Kavukcuoglu's low name recognition may hurt Google short-term, but his sobriety may prove crucial long-term.

  7. Assessment: UnresolvedSaid

    “He has worked together with his replacement, Koray Kavukcuoglu, for over a decade, and they will continue to work together.”

    What we tested: Hassabis and his replacement Kavukcuoglu will keep working together at Google.

  8. Assessment: UnresolvedSaid

    “Google’s most obvious competitors have troubles of their own. OpenAI has a declining reputation, Anthropic has conflict with the administration, Microsoft and Amazon don’t have the same talent pool.”

    What we tested: Google's competitors have problems: OpenAI's reputation is declining, Anthropic is in conflict with the administration, and Microsoft and Amazon lack comparable talent.

  9. Assessment: UnresolvedSaid

    “Google can probably keep going even if it doesn’t take much of the LLM market in the end (which I expect will be a multi-way tie with relatively modest profits).”

    What we tested: The LLM market will end up as a multi-way tie with relatively modest profits.

  10. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “On the other hand, if things do turn out as I expect, and there is a multi-way tie with relatively modest profits, Anthropic and OpenAI don’t have that much else to fall back on; they may never earn out their investments.”

    What we tested: If things turn out as he expects, with the LLM market a multi-way tie with relatively modest profits, Anthropic and OpenAI don't have that much else to fall back on and may never earn out their investments.

  11. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “Google may simply outlast the other two.”

    What we tested: Google may outlast OpenAI and Anthropic.

  12. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “Google definitely doesn’t look unassailable like they once did, and may never be as strong as they once were, but it’s premature to count them out.”

    What we tested: Google definitely doesn't look unassailable as it once did, and may never be as strong as it once was.

  13. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “Google definitely doesn’t look unassailable like they once did, and may never be as strong as they once were, but it’s premature to count them out.”

    What we tested: It is premature to count Google out.

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