Pundit ClaimsAI claims by Gary Marcus and Ed Zitron, with the evidence

“For one thing, what we publish often gets incorporated into the training; perhaps in company benchmarks as well.”

How Not to Test GPT-3, paragraph 40. The full statement is at the source.

Our reading, the sentence that was checked:

What the authors publish often gets incorporated into AI training data, and perhaps into company benchmarks as well.

Assessment: Unresolved Evidence as of

Where and when Gary Marcus wrote it

Marcus on AI, How Not to Test GPT-3, paragraph 40.

Said
Source observed
live page, full text, public
Evidence as of
the cutoff for this assessment
Assessment recorded
assessment marcus-how-not-to-test-gpt-3-6818ec-a2

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The wording above is the version this site observed on 2026-10-29. The source may have been edited after 2023-02-17. This page does not claim the wording was captured then.

What the claim commits to

Kind
Observation
Deadline, as the speaker wrote it
None stated. This site does not add one.
Deadline state when assessed
No horizon
Deadline state on 2026-10-29
No horizon (the release’s reference date)

Conditions

  • what we publish (scope, stated by the speaker)
  • perhaps (company benchmarks) (qualifier, stated by the speaker)

From the speaker

  • what we publish
  • often gets incorporated into the training
  • perhaps in company benchmarks as well

Our interpretation

  • The firm assertion concerns repeated inclusion of Marcus and Davis's published material, especially their test examples, in LLM training.
  • General evidence that training corpora contain published material does not establish this author-specific assertion.
  • The benchmark clause expresses a possibility and is not a separate firm assertion.
  • I use early 2023 through the post date as the latest reportable period for this ongoing, undated observation.

Counts as supported if: Training records, corpus audits, or validated membership tests establish repeated inclusion of the authors' published examples in models in use during the target period.

Counts as contradicted if: Sufficiently broad training records or corpus audits establish that the authors' published examples were generally excluded from the relevant models.

Retrospective: these criteria were written after the outcome was public.

Current assessment

Was it true for the period described?

Outcome: Unresolved

The record was checked, and the evidence available by the cutoff does not settle it.

Scored on a plain reading. The speaker named no measure for this claim, so it was judged on the reading an informed reader would take, stated below under our interpretation. Both reviews had to find that reading fair.

Evidence as of
Deadline state when assessed
No horizon
Assessment recorded
Policy version
2026-10-28.7

Rationale

The 2020 GPT-3 analysis examined overlap between training data and benchmarks, but did not establish repeated inclusion or general exclusion of Marcus and Davis's published examples [e1]. It therefore does not settle the author-specific training claim for January 1–February 17, 2023.

Limitations

  • No verified membership records or frequency estimate establish how often the authors' examples entered relevant training data.
  • The evidence does not document inclusion in company benchmarks; that clause is a possibility, not a separate firm assertion.
  • The absence of membership evidence does not establish exclusion.

Evidence (1 item)

  • Context only: arXiv; Brown et al.,

    overestimated contamination

    Why it matters here: The developers investigated overlap between training data and benchmarks, while cautioning about interpreting their detection method. This earlier, general analysis does not establish repeated inclusion of Marcus and Davis's published examples.

    Publisher
    arXiv; Brown et al.
    Kind of source
    Preprint, not peer reviewed
    Describes events of
    Public from

What would settle it

Training disclosures, independent corpus audits or validated membership tests identifying recurring inclusion of the authors' examples in models used during January 1–February 17, 2023, or sufficiently broad records establishing general exclusion, with publications, model versions and training stages identified.

Where it was said (1)

Said once in the sources this register covers.

  • : Marcus on AI, How Not to Test GPT-3

    For one thing, what we publish often gets incorporated into the training; perhaps in company benchmarks as well.

    Published
    2023-02-17
    Source observed
    , live page
    Access
    full text, public

History

Assessment versions

Recorded events

  1. Assessment publishedBy this site

    First assessment published after both reviews and the final-text check passed.

    About assessment marcus-how-not-to-test-gpt-3-6818ec-a2.