Pundit ClaimsAI claims by Gary Marcus and Ed Zitron, with the evidence

“And, sorry Sam, when you actually look at the data. humans are still ahead.”

Nope, the Turing Test has not been solved, paragraph 4. The full statement is at the source.

Our reading, the sentence that was checked:

When you actually look at the data in the cited Turing Test study, humans are still ahead of the AI systems tested.

Assessment: Supported Evidence as of

Where and when Gary Marcus wrote it

Marcus on AI, Nope, the Turing Test has not been solved, paragraph 4.

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What the claim commits to

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Conditions

  • when you actually look at the data in the cited study (qualifier, stated by the speaker)
  • the AI systems tested in that study (scope, stated by the speaker)

From the speaker

  • when you actually look at the data
  • humans are still ahead

Our interpretation

  • The surrounding citation limits this comparison to the AI witnesses tested in Jones and Bergen's experiment.
  • Ahead means a higher overall judged-human rate, not superior performance on every intellectual task.
  • Use the paper version public on December 9, 2023.
  • The target period is the 2023 experiment reported in the cited paper; exact collection dates are unspecified.

Counts as supported if: Human witnesses have a higher overall judged-human rate than every tested AI witness configuration.

Counts as contradicted if: At least one tested AI witness configuration matches or exceeds the human witnesses' overall judged-human rate.

Retrospective: these criteria were written after the outcome was public.

Current assessment

Was it true for the period described?

Outcome: Supported

The dated evidence matches what the claim committed to, under the criteria frozen before grading.

Scored on a plain reading. The speaker named no measure for this claim, so it was judged on the reading an informed reader would take, stated below under our interpretation. Both reviews had to find that reading fair.

Evidence as of
Deadline state when assessed
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Assessment recorded
Policy version
2026-10-28.7

Rationale

Human witnesses scored 63%, above the strongest tested AI configuration at 41%. The statement accurately describes the cited study's results.

Limitations

  • The finding concerns this experiment and its prompts.
  • It does not establish that every possible AI configuration would perform below humans.

Evidence (1 item)

  • Supports the claim: arXiv; Cameron Jones and Benjamin Bergen,

    Human witnesses performed best, with an SR of 63% (see Figure 4).

    Why it matters here: The section reports a 63% human success rate and 41% for the strongest GPT-4 prompt. All other tested AI configurations scored lower.

    Publisher
    arXiv; Cameron Jones and Benjamin Bergen
    Kind of source
    Preprint, not peer reviewed
    Describes events of
    Public from

Where it was said (1)

Said once in the sources this register covers.

  • : Marcus on AI, Nope, the Turing Test has not been solved

    And, sorry Sam, when you actually look at the data. humans are still ahead.

    Published
    2023-12-09
    Source observed
    , live page
    Access
    full text, public

History

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