Pundit ClaimsAI claims by Gary Marcus and Ed Zitron, with the evidence

“(OpenAI even brazenly asked the British goverment to exempt them from copyright laws, wanting all the gain at none of the cost.)”

The race between positive and negative applications of Generative AI is on – and not looking pretty, paragraph 14. The full statement is at the source.

Our reading, the sentence that was checked:

OpenAI asked the British government to exempt it from copyright laws.

Assessment: Unresolved Evidence as of

Where and when Gary Marcus wrote it

Marcus on AI, The race between positive and negative applications of Generative AI is on – and not looking pretty, paragraph 14.

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Evidence as of
the cutoff for this assessment
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assessment marcus-the-race-between-positive-and-negative-799f03-a1

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The wording above is the version this site observed on 2026-10-29. The source may have been edited after 2024-03-29. This page does not claim the wording was captured then.

What the claim commits to

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Deadline, as the speaker wrote it
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Deadline state on 2026-10-29
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From the speaker

  • OpenAI
  • asked the British goverment
  • exempt them from copyright laws

Our interpretation

  • In context, an exemption means permission to train on copyrighted works without the ordinary licensing requirement, not necessarily immunity from every copyright obligation.
  • A claim that existing law already permits training is distinguishable from a request to change or waive the law.
  • The target is the recent pre-post UK policy engagement described by the sentence, covering 2023 through publication.
  • Brazenly and the attributed desire for all gain at no cost are evaluative language, not independently scored factual commitments.

Counts as supported if: A pre-post OpenAI submission or statement to UK authorities requests a copyright exemption or equivalent relaxation for model training.

Counts as contradicted if: The relevant request is affirmatively shown to have a materially different purpose, or a sufficiently complete record establishes that the attributed exemption request was not made.

Retrospective: these criteria were written after the outcome was public.

Current assessment

Was it true for the period described?

Outcome: Unresolved

The record was checked, and the evidence available by the cutoff does not settle it.

Scored on a plain reading. The speaker named no measure for this claim, so it was judged on the reading an informed reader would take, stated below under our interpretation. Both reviews had to find that reading fair.

Evidence as of
Deadline state when assessed
No horizon
Assessment recorded
Policy version
2026-10-28.7

Rationale

The December 2023 submission says copyrighted material is needed and argues that training is already lawful. That does not itself establish a request for exemption. An explicit request appears in the 2025 consultation response, which is too late to support this post. The search did not establish a qualifying earlier request, but the identified submission alone cannot exclude every other communication.

Limitations

  • The official submission required an accessible mirror.
  • The statement does not identify a particular request.
  • A loose political characterization and a specific legal request are different readings.

Evidence (3 items)

  • Context only: OpenAI; parliamentary submission reproduced by Developpez.net,

    including copyright laws.

    Why it matters here: The submission argues that existing copyright law permits training and discusses opt-outs and publisher agreements. Its copyright section does not explicitly request an exemption; the availability date refers to the original document's public reporting, not the mirror's upload.

    Publisher
    OpenAI; parliamentary submission reproduced by Developpez.net
    Kind of source
    Company disclosure: the company describing itself, not an independent finding
    Describes events of
    Public from
  • Context only: The Guardian,

    copyright law does not forbid training

    Why it matters here: Contemporaneous reporting confirms the existing-law argument. That argument alone does not establish a request for a new exemption.

    Publisher
    The Guardian
    Kind of source
    News report
    Describes events of
    Public from
  • Context only: OpenAI,

    broad TDM exception

    Why it matters here: This document explicitly advocates a broad text-and-data-mining exception. It falls after Marcus's post and cannot establish his historical assertion.

    Publisher
    OpenAI
    Kind of source
    Company disclosure: the company describing itself, not an independent finding
    Describes events of
    Public from

What would settle it

A dated pre-March 29, 2024 OpenAI communication requesting the exemption, or a sufficiently complete record identifying and definitively resolving the request Marcus meant.

Where it was said (1)

Said once in the sources this register covers.

  • : Marcus on AI, The race between positive and negative applications of Generative AI is on – and not looking pretty

    (OpenAI even brazenly asked the British goverment to exempt them from copyright laws, wanting all the gain at none of the cost.)

    Published
    2024-03-29
    Source observed
    , live page
    Access
    full text, public

History

Assessment versions

Recorded events

  1. Assessment publishedBy this site

    First assessment published after both reviews and the final-text check passed.

    About assessment marcus-the-race-between-positive-and-negative-799f03-a1.