Pundit ClaimsAI claims by Gary Marcus and Ed Zitron, with the evidence

“noncanonical reorderings such as these remain problematic for current AI approaches.)”

Three ideas from linguistics that everyone in AI should know, paragraph 37. The full statement is at the source.

Our reading, the sentence that was checked:

Current AI approaches still struggle with noncanonical word orders such as 'the mat is on the cat'.

Assessment: Supported Evidence as of

Where and when Gary Marcus wrote it

Marcus on AI, Three ideas from linguistics that everyone in AI should know, paragraph 37.

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From the speaker

  • noncanonical reorderings such as these
  • remain problematic
  • current AI approaches
  • the mat is on the cat

Our interpretation

  • The examples concern unusual semantic role or relation reversals, rather than necessarily ungrammatical syntax.
  • Problematic means representative contemporary approaches show substantial, repeatable difficulty preserving the changed meaning. It does not require every model to fail every example.
  • Because AI evaluations have no regular reporting quarter, current is assessed using the current calendar year through publication: 2022-01-01 to 2022-06-22.

Counts as supported if: Controlled evaluations of representative contemporary models show substantial failures distinguishing sentences or images whose meanings change when the same words exchange roles or positions.

Counts as contradicted if: Broad, representative contemporary evaluations show reliable handling of these semantic reversals, including unusual configurations.

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Outcome: Supported

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Rationale

The April 2022 Winoground evaluation tested image-caption matching with captions containing the same words in different orders [e1]. All tested models scored below random chance on the group measure, supporting substantial difficulty handling meaning-changing reorderings in contemporary vision-language models [e1]. A November 2022 analysis provides a later qualification: failures also involved combining visual and linguistic information, so they cannot be attributed solely to word-order processing [e2].

Limitations

  • The evidence concerns tested vision-language models, not every contemporary AI approach [e1].
  • The packet does not quantify performance on the exact cat-and-mat example.
  • The November analysis falls outside the January 1–June 22, 2022 target period and serves only as methodological context [e2].

Evidence (2 items)

  • Supports the claim: Thrush et al., CVPR 2022 / arXiv,

    All of the models are below random chance here as well.

    Why it matters here: Winoground requires matching two images to captions containing the same words in different orders. Its poor group scores across contemporary vision-language models support substantial difficulty preserving the changed relationships.

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    Thrush et al., CVPR 2022 / arXiv
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  • Context only: Diwan et al., arXiv,

    meaningful model failures.

    Why it matters here: This later analysis finds that visual discrimination and combining visual with linguistic information also affect performance. It limits any inference that word-order processing alone caused the observed failures.

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    Diwan et al., arXiv
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  • : Marcus on AI, Three ideas from linguistics that everyone in AI should know

    noncanonical reorderings such as these remain problematic for current AI approaches.)

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    2022-06-22
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