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“Just like we can’t guarantee that they won’t make stuff up, we don’t know how to guarantee that they won’t write flawed code.”

What was 60 Minutes thinking, in that interview with Geoff Hinton?, paragraph 62. The full statement is at the source.

Our reading, the sentence that was checked:

We cannot guarantee that AI systems will not fabricate or write flawed code.

Assessment: Supported Evidence as of

Where and when Gary Marcus wrote it

Marcus on AI, What was 60 Minutes thinking, in that interview with Geoff Hinton?, paragraph 62.

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From the speaker

  • we can’t guarantee that they won’t make stuff up
  • we don’t know how to guarantee that they won’t write flawed code

Our interpretation

  • The subject is contemporary general-purpose language models producing open-ended factual answers and code.
  • Guarantee means general assurance against these errors, not a high benchmark score or successful checking of an individual output.
  • This is a statement about the technology available in 2023, not a claim that such guarantees are impossible forever.
  • For this ongoing technical state, use the 2023 reporting window through publication; there is no standard quarterly reporting cycle.

Counts as supported if: Contemporary developer disclosures acknowledge factual fabrication, and primary tests demonstrate flawed generated code despite ordinary validation, with no established general guarantee found.

Counts as contradicted if: A method available by the post provides a generally applicable guarantee that these systems' open-ended factual answers and generated code are free of the stated errors.

Retrospective: these criteria were written after the outcome was public.

Current assessment

Was it true for the period described?

Outcome: Supported

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Scored on a plain reading. The speaker named no measure for this claim, so it was judged on the reading an informed reader would take, stated below under our interpretation. Both reviews had to find that reading fair.

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Rationale

Contemporary developer disclosures acknowledged factual fabrication, and independent code evaluations demonstrated flawed outputs that passed existing tests. These records support the absence of general assurances for the open-ended chatbot generation discussed by Marcus. They do not establish that every output is unreliable or that individual programs cannot be checked.

Limitations

  • This is an empirical assessment of contemporary general-purpose systems, not a mathematical impossibility claim.
  • Guarantees for restricted tasks would need to be assessed under their own specifications and assumptions.

Evidence (2 items)

  • Supports the claim: OpenAI, via arXiv,

    makes reasoning errors

    Why it matters here: The developer explicitly acknowledges factual fabrication in its contemporary model. The surrounding discussion recommends review and grounding appropriate to the application rather than claiming assured factual correctness.

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    OpenAI, via arXiv
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  • Supports the claim: arXiv; Jiawei Liu and colleagues,

    logically flawed solution

    Why it matters here: The paper demonstrates a ChatGPT-generated sorting error missed by the original benchmark tests and exposed by additional inputs. This shows why successful test results did not guarantee correct generated code.

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    arXiv; Jiawei Liu and colleagues
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    Preprint, not peer reviewed
    Describes events of
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Where it was said (1)

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  • : Marcus on AI, What was 60 Minutes thinking, in that interview with Geoff Hinton?

    Just like we can’t guarantee that they won’t make stuff up, we don’t know how to guarantee that they won’t write flawed code.

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    2023-10-10
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    , live page
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    full text, public

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