Pundit ClaimsAI claims by Gary Marcus and Ed Zitron, with the evidence

“And that’s acknowledging the fact that LLMs — even those developed a legion of well-resourced and well-fed PHDs, like GPT-4, and based on a well-curated dataset of high-quality material — have a habit of hallucinating facts, figures, and events.”

Elon's Gordian Knot, paragraph 21. The full statement is at the source.

Our reading, the sentence that was checked:

LLMs, even well-resourced ones like GPT-4 trained on curated data, habitually hallucinate facts, figures, and events.

Assessment: Supported Evidence as of

Where and when Ed Zitron wrote it

Where's Your Ed At, Elon's Gordian Knot, paragraph 21.

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Conditions

  • even well-resourced models trained on curated data (qualifier, stated by the speaker)

From the speaker

  • LLMs
  • even those
  • like GPT-4
  • have a habit of hallucinating facts, figures, and events

Our interpretation

  • 'Have a habit' means a recurring, demonstrated failure mode, not that most answers are fabricated.
  • GPT-4 is the named example of a well-resourced model; the sentence does not assert a measurable universal standard for training-data quality.
  • For this ongoing technical observation, assess the GPT-4-era reporting period from its public introduction through the post date.

Counts as supported if: Evaluations demonstrate repeated factual fabrication by GPT-4 and other contemporary LLMs, despite training and measures intended to improve factuality.

Counts as contradicted if: Reliable evaluations establish that the alleged recurring fabrication did not occur in the relevant models, or that the cited examples were misattributed or not factual errors.

Retrospective: these criteria were written after the outcome was public.

Current assessment

Was it true for the period described?

Outcome: Supported

The dated evidence matches what the claim committed to, under the criteria frozen before grading.

Scored on a plain reading. The speaker named no measure for this claim, so it was judged on the reading an informed reader would take, stated below under our interpretation. Both reviews had to find that reading fair.

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Rationale

Both the developer's disclosure and independent research establish factual hallucination as a recurring problem in contemporary LLMs, including GPT-4. This supports the ordinary meaning of 'have a habit.' It does not establish that most answers were false or that every model had the same error rate.

Limitations

  • The research uses constructed evaluation datasets, not a representative sample of everyday use.
  • The evidence does not independently audit the quality of GPT-4's entire training dataset.

Evidence (2 items)

  • Supports the claim: OpenAI,

    not fully reliable

    Why it matters here: OpenAI acknowledges factual hallucinations in GPT-4. Its accompanying report of improvement over earlier models does not remove that recurring limitation.

    Publisher
    OpenAI
    Kind of source
    Company disclosure: the company describing itself, not an independent finding
    Describes events of
    Public from
  • Supports the claim: arXiv; Muru Zhang and colleagues,

    their own mistakes

    Why it matters here: The study reports repeated incorrect answers and false explanatory claims across three constructed datasets. The quoted result measures recognition of those errors in separate questioning, not the models' overall hallucination rate.

    Publisher
    arXiv; Muru Zhang and colleagues
    Kind of source
    Preprint, not peer reviewed
    Describes events of
    Public from

Where it was said (1)

Said once in the sources this register covers.

  • : Where's Your Ed At, Elon's Gordian Knot

    And that’s acknowledging the fact that LLMs — even those developed a legion of well-resourced and well-fed PHDs, like GPT-4, and based on a well-curated dataset of high-quality material — have a habit of hallucinating facts, figures, and events.

    Published
    2023-12-05
    Source observed
    , live page
    Access
    full text, public

History

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