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“2025 — OpenAI Had $13.07 Billion In Revenue, $34 Billion In Costs and Expenses, and $20.92 Billion In Losses, with a net loss attributable to the company of $38.53 Billion”

Exclusive: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, With Spending Hitting $34 Billion, paragraph 19. The full statement is at the source.

Our reading, the sentence that was checked:

In 2025 OpenAI had $13.07 billion in revenue, $34 billion in costs and expenses, a $20.92 billion operating loss, and a net loss attributable to the company of $38.53 billion.

Assessment: Unresolved Evidence as of

Where and when Ed Zitron wrote it

Where's Your Ed At, Exclusive: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, With Spending Hitting $34 Billion, paragraph 19.

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Evidence as of
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assessment wyea-exclusive-openai-financials-b8a1c6-a1

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The wording above is the version this site observed on 2026-10-28. The source may have been edited after 2026-06-16. This page does not claim the wording was captured then.

What the claim commits to

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Observation
Deadline, as the speaker wrote it
None stated. This site does not add one.
Deadline state when assessed
No horizon
Deadline state on 2026-10-29
No horizon (the release’s reference date)

From the speaker

  • 2025
  • $13.07 Billion In Revenue
  • $34 Billion In Costs and Expenses
  • $20.92 Billion In Losses
  • net loss attributable to the company of $38.53 Billion

Our interpretation

  • The accompanying list identifies $20.92 billion as loss from operations.
  • All four measures concern calendar 2025.
  • Costs and expenses is an income-statement measure, not necessarily cash paid.
  • Attributable net loss includes noncash accounting items and follows allocations to other interests.
  • Full support requires all four lines at their stated reporting precision; rounded corroboration of the broad loss does not verify every precise figure.

Counts as supported if: Audited accounts or independent verification establish $13.07 billion revenue, approximately $34 billion total costs and expenses, $20.92 billion operating loss and $38.53 billion attributable net loss for 2025.

Counts as contradicted if: Comparable verified accounts establish a materially different value for one or more lines, beyond rounding at the stated precision.

Retrospective: these criteria were written after the outcome was public.

Current assessment

Was it true for the period described?

Outcome: Unresolved

The record was checked, and the evidence available by the cutoff does not settle it.

Scored on a plain reading. The speaker named no measure for this claim, so it was judged on the reading an informed reader would take, stated below under our interpretation. Both reviews had to find that reading fair.

Evidence as of
Deadline state when assessed
No horizon
Assessment recorded
Policy version
2026-10-28.7

Rationale

The available reports are consistent with the breakdown, and secondary coverage repeats the operating-loss figure. However, the complete precise four-line claim is not independently established by the accessible records. It should remain unresolved rather than treating repeated coverage as multiple confirmations. No matching evidence establishes that any component is false.

Limitations

  • The audited statements and notes were unavailable.
  • Broad, rounded corroboration does not settle all figures to the hundredth of a billion.
  • The evidence supports no adverse inference from the absence of a public statement.

Evidence (1 item)

  • Context only: Quartz, syndicated by Yahoo Finance,

    The operating loss for 2025 was $20.92 billion.

    Why it matters here: Quartz repeats the operating-loss component and attributes the documents to Zitron with verification by the FT. This is partial secondary corroboration, not independent verification of the complete four-measure claim.

    Publisher
    Quartz, syndicated by Yahoo Finance
    Kind of source
    News report, audited
    Measures
    OpenAI, operating loss, USD billions, company reported, 2025-01-01 to 2025-12-31
    Describes events of
    Public from

What would settle it

The audited 2025 income statement or independent reporting explicitly verifying all four amounts and the allocation producing attributable net loss.

Where it was said (1)

Said once in the sources this register covers.

  • : Where's Your Ed At, Exclusive: OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, With Spending Hitting $34 Billion

    2025 — OpenAI Had $13.07 Billion In Revenue, $34 Billion In Costs and Expenses, and $20.92 Billion In Losses, with a net loss attributable to the company of $38.53 Billion

    Published
    2026-06-16
    Source observed
    , live page
    Access
    full text, public

History

Assessment versions

Recorded events

  1. Assessment publishedBy this site

    First assessment published after both reviews and the final-text check passed.

    About assessment wyea-exclusive-openai-financials-b8a1c6-a1.