Pundit ClaimsAI claims by Gary Marcus and Ed Zitron, with the evidence

“There is no "artificial intelligence" part of Microsoft's revenue or earnings. This is literally Microsoft taking anything with "AI" on it and saying "we made money!"”

The Generative AI Con, paragraph 27. The full statement is at the source.

Our reading, the sentence that was checked:

Microsoft's $13bn AI run-rate figure is not a distinct reported segment but a relabelling of anything with AI.

Assessment: Unresolved Evidence as of

Where and when Ed Zitron wrote it

Where's Your Ed At, The Generative AI Con, paragraph 27.

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What the claim commits to

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From the speaker

  • There is no "artificial intelligence" part of Microsoft's revenue or earnings
  • taking anything with "AI" on it
  • saying "we made money!"

Our interpretation

  • The context acknowledges an AI revenue run rate. The fair reading of the first sentence is that AI is not a distinct financial reporting segment, rather than that Microsoft disclosed no AI-related figure.
  • The second sentence asserts that the run rate is assembled indiscriminately from AI-labelled business. This requires separate evidence about its calculation.
  • The target is Microsoft's fiscal quarter ended December 31, 2024, identified by the surrounding quarterly figures.
  • The contract's monetary scope describes the company-reported AI revenue run rate under discussion. Segment financial statements are a different measure and are retained as context.

Counts as supported if: Financial disclosures show no distinct AI segment, and evidence of the run-rate methodology establishes the asserted indiscriminate aggregation.

Counts as contradicted if: Disclosures identify a distinct AI financial reporting segment, or a documented calculation contradicts the asserted indiscriminate aggregation.

Retrospective: these criteria were written after the outcome was public.

Current assessment

Was it true for the period described?

Outcome: Unresolved

The record was checked, and the evidence available by the cutoff does not settle it.

Scored on a plain reading. The speaker named no measure for this claim, so it was judged on the reading an informed reader would take, stated below under our interpretation. Both reviews had to find that reading fair.

Evidence as of
Deadline state when assessed
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Assessment recorded
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Rationale

Microsoft's segment table for the quarter ended December 31, 2024 contains no separate AI segment, supporting the narrow reporting point [e1]. In its January 29, 2025 earnings remarks, Microsoft reported an AI business annual revenue run rate exceeding $13 billion [e2]. Neither disclosure supplies a complete calculation showing which revenue streams enter that figure, so they do not establish whether Microsoft counted anything labelled AI indiscriminately [e1; e2].

Limitations

  • The absence of an AI reporting segment does not establish how the supplemental metric was assembled.
  • The packet contains no complete inclusion methodology or reconciliation for the AI run rate.
  • An annual revenue run rate does not establish realized annual revenue or AI profit.

Evidence (2 items)

  • Context only: Microsoft,

    internally manage and monitor

    Why it matters here: The full table reports Productivity and Business Processes, Intelligent Cloud, and More Personal Computing; it has no separate AI segment. This establishes the narrow reporting point, but its realized segment figures cannot verify the composition of an annualized AI metric.

    Publisher
    Microsoft
    Kind of source
    Company disclosure: the company describing itself, not an independent finding, unaudited
    Measures
    Microsoft, Reportable-segment revenue and operating income, USD millions, company reported, 2024-10-01 to 2024-12-31
    Describes events of
    Public from
  • Context only: Microsoft,

    annual revenue run rate

    Why it matters here: Microsoft explicitly disclosed an AI revenue metric alongside its quarterly results. That limits a literal reading of no AI revenue disclosure, but the statement does not show whether the aggregation was indiscriminate.

    Publisher
    Microsoft
    Kind of source
    Company disclosure: the company describing itself, not an independent finding
    Measures
    Microsoft, AI business annual revenue run rate, USD billions, company reported, 2024-10-01 to 2024-12-31
    Describes events of
    Public from

What would settle it

A methodology and reconciliation for the AI run rate reported with the quarter ended December 31, 2024, identifying included products and revenue streams, inclusion criteria and the annualization method.

Where it was said (1)

Said once in the sources this register covers.

  • : Where's Your Ed At, The Generative AI Con

    There is no "artificial intelligence" part of Microsoft's revenue or earnings. This is literally Microsoft taking anything with "AI" on it and saying "we made money!"

    Published
    2025-02-17
    Source observed
    , live page
    Access
    full text, public

History

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Recorded events

  1. Assessment publishedBy this site

    First assessment published after both reviews and the final-text check passed.

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