Pundit ClaimsAI claims by Gary Marcus and Ed Zitron, with the evidence

“Despite the daily shouts of “exponential progress” for nearly two years, GPT-5 hasn’t come.”

AGI isn’t coming in 2025, and GPT-5 probably isn’t either., paragraph 1. The full statement is at the source.

Our reading, the sentence that was checked:

As of January 2025, GPT-5 has not been released despite nearly two years of claims of exponential progress.

Assessment: Supported Evidence as of

Where and when Gary Marcus wrote it

Marcus on AI, AGI isn’t coming in 2025, and GPT-5 probably isn’t either., paragraph 1.

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What the claim commits to

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From the speaker

  • GPT-5 hasn't come
  • despite the daily shouts of 'exponential progress' for nearly two years
  • as of the post date, 9 January 2025

Our interpretation

  • Read as: as of 9 January 2025, OpenAI had not released a model called GPT-5.
  • The 'daily shouts of exponential progress' part is rhetorical framing. It is not scored as a separate factual claim.
  • 'Nearly two years' is read as the period since GPT-4's release in March 2023, up to the post date.

Counts as supported if: Evidence from the period shows that GPT-5 was still unreleased or in development as of early January 2025.

Counts as contradicted if: Evidence shows that OpenAI publicly released a model named GPT-5 on or before 9 January 2025.

Retrospective: these criteria were written after the outcome was public.

Current assessment

Was it true for the period described?

Outcome: Supported

The dated evidence matches what the claim committed to, under the criteria frozen before grading.

Scored on a plain reading. The speaker named no measure for this claim, so it was judged on the reading an informed reader would take, stated below under our interpretation. Both reviews had to find that reading fair.

Evidence as of
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Assessment recorded
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2026-10-28.7

Rationale

The claim is that GPT-5 had not been released by 9 January 2025. On 21 December 2024, TechCrunch, summarizing the WSJ, reported that GPT-5 was still in development and behind schedule. It added that OpenAI had said it would not release Orion in 2024. OpenAI's own launch page introduces GPT-5 on 7 August 2025. So GPT-5 had not come out when Marcus wrote. The phrase about 'daily shouts of exponential progress' is rhetoric and is not scored.

Limitations

  • The in-period evidence is a news summary of a paywalled WSJ report.
  • The rhetorical framing about 'exponential progress' claims was not tested.

Evidence (3 items)

  • Supports the claim: TechCrunch,

    The company previously said it would not be releasing a model code-named Orion this year.

    Why it matters here: On 21 December 2024, GPT-5 (Orion) was reported as still in development, and OpenAI had said it would not release it in 2024. So it had not come out by the post date.

    Publisher
    TechCrunch
    Kind of source
    News report
    Describes events of
    Public from
  • Supports the claim: TechCrunch (summarizing The Wall Street Journal),

    OpenAI’s efforts to develop its next major model, GPT-5, are running behind schedule

    Why it matters here: Describes GPT-5 as still being developed and behind schedule less than three weeks before the post.

    Publisher
    TechCrunch (summarizing The Wall Street Journal)
    Kind of source
    News report
    Describes events of
    Public from
  • Context only: OpenAI,

    We are introducing GPT‑5, our best AI system yet.

    Why it matters here: OpenAI's own launch page introduces GPT-5 on 7 August 2025. This confirms it was not out in January 2025.

    Publisher
    OpenAI
    Kind of source
    Company disclosure: the company describing itself, not an independent finding
    Describes events of
    Public from

Where it was said (1)

Said once in the sources this register covers.

  • : Marcus on AI, AGI isn’t coming in 2025, and GPT-5 probably isn’t either.

    Despite the daily shouts of “exponential progress” for nearly two years, GPT-5 hasn’t come.

    Published
    2025-01-09
    Source observed
    , live page
    Access
    full text, public

History

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    First assessment published after both reviews and the final-text check passed.

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